Lisa Lewis 00:00:00 Sensitive in nature is part of the practice of the Practice Network, a network of podcasts seeking to help you market and grow your business and yourself. To hear other podcasts like the Impact Driven Leader podcast and Behind the Bite podcast, go to practice of the practice. Com forward slash network. Welcome to Sensitive in Nature. The podcast invites you to explore the profound connection between highly sensitive people and the natural world. I’m your host, Lisa Lewis, and I’m thrilled to embark on this journey with you. In each episode will delve into the unique experiences, challenges, and gifts of being highly sensitive while discovering how nature serves as a sanctuary for those who feel deeply will hear stories from individuals who have found solace, strength and inspiration in the embrace of the natural world. So if you’re someone who feels a deep kinship with nature, or if you’re curious about the transformative power it holds for highly sensitive people, you’re in the right place. Let’s embark on this journey together, and may it lead us to a deeper understanding of ourselves and the world around us. Lisa Lewis 00:01:35 Welcome to the Sensitive and Nature podcast, where we explore the unique experiences of highly sensitive individuals and how they thrive in their personal and professional lives. I’m your host, Lisa Lewis, and today we have an incredible guest, Susie Raines. Susie is a business foundation coach and founder of starting a Business Simplified, she brings over 15 years of corporate experience, combined with her expertise in health and energy coaching to help women transitioning from medical careers build sustainable, purpose driven businesses. In today’s episode, Suzy will be sharing how healing past trauma allows highly sensitive people to fully step into their power as business owners. So get ready for some deep insights and practical strategies that could transform how you approach entrepreneurship. Welcome to the show, Suzy. Suzy Wraines 00:02:36 Thank you, Lisa, for having me. Lisa Lewis 00:02:38 It’s so good to have you here. And this is a disclaimer putting it out there. Suzy is my business coach and I met her through, energy, coaching through semantics. And we can talk a little bit about that, but, I’m so glad to have you on the podcast. Suzy Wraines 00:02:59 Yeah, I’m excited to be here, and I really appreciate you inviting me to come. and just the history that you and I have and and how we work together. So that’s just a beautiful thing. Lisa Lewis 00:03:11 Yeah. It is, and you’ve helped me so much. in my business, as I’m getting ready for my first, retreat next week, actually. And so that’s been a tremendous help and guidance. And you’ve helped me through the parts that I, I’m not really good at as far as the accounting, math and all of the numbers part. You’ve really helped me a lot through that transition. Suzy Wraines 00:03:42 That’s so good to hear. I know that’s one of the number one things that people come to me asking about. That’s part of my, experience. I when I worked in corporate, I was, sales forecasting and lived in spreadsheets. So I totally get that. Lisa Lewis 00:03:57 Yes. I want to hear about how you started. so you were in the corporate business and how did you get to where you are today? Suzy Wraines 00:04:05 Yeah. Suzy Wraines 00:04:05 I have a really interesting journey. I was having a conversation with somebody. I worked for a publishing company, in my late 20s. And, she was like, you sound like you should be, like, 80 years old from all the things I had done. And it was just it was. I thought it was. We were laughing about it because I was telling her all the the things I had done, and she’s like, wow. So I have, worked in corporate business as over 15 years and then have a business degree. But then I also joined the US Army and was a medic in the Army, and I joined late in life. I joined in my 20s, 29, almost 30, and I was the oldest one in basic training, which was actually kind of shocking to me. I thought more people would be there older, but apparently it is a very most people go in there young. And so for me, I had this business and life experience already under my belt when I went into the Army. Suzy Wraines 00:05:06 And I found while I was there that I was implementing business strategies with the medical side. So I worked in an Army hospital and I ended up helping while I worked in the recovery room, helping their admin staff save hours of how they were doing things, and I was just noticing that there were these inconsistencies of ways I could improve things. So that was when it started. My my brain started thinking, oh, I can apply a lot of experience to different areas of the world. I spent a year in Iraq as a medic, came home and had PTSD pretty bad. had a hard time. I was medically discharged from the Army and then had a hard time transitioning into regular everyday life. I went back to school and got a degree to be a veterinary technician and went into veterinary medicine and again, was having a really hard time. with my PTSD, I would get triggered at work. I would be assisting in surgery and some a smell would come up and I would be right back in the war zone. Suzy Wraines 00:06:13 So I was thinking to myself, I really need to control my environment. That was what came up. First, I was like, if I could do a job where I could make my own hours and take a break when I need to, and then so I could manage to. My disability is what I was thinking at the time. And so I went to health coaching school and got certified in that. And I thought, well, I can just do that from home. I’ll just create my own business. And I started researching how to do that, and I realized how much I did not know about how to start a business by myself. I knew how to be in a corporate business. I knew how to work in a structured environment that was already fully functioning. And when I started doing research, I realized there wasn’t a lot of how to become a solopreneur. How do you just get started by yourself? If you want to self-fund, you’re not going to a bank and asking for a loan. Suzy Wraines 00:07:11 You’re not asking for investors. You’re not hiring a whole staff of people to launch your business. It’s just you. And so I ended up writing a workbook and putting that out on Amazon. And then I asked some people to go through it and give me feedback. And the answers I got back from people were, I love this workbook, but I need help going through it. I keep getting stuck and I don’t know how to move forward. And that was really my story too. At the same time, I was going through building my business, getting stuck because I hadn’t. I hadn’t really addressed internally what was happening. My own trauma patterns I hadn’t addressed or even recognized that my past childhood developmental trauma, the traumas I went through in the Army, just in general, working in the medical field. I didn’t realize that that actually crossed over into business. I had them compartmentalized. I’m doing business. And then over here I have, oh, I have this history. And I had no idea that it all was combined together until I was introduced to Soma Genetics. Suzy Wraines 00:08:24 So I’m not sure how much further you want me to go. So that brings me to now. Yeah. Lisa Lewis 00:08:28 Yeah. And so what is Soma ethics? Tell us about that. Suzy Wraines 00:08:35 Okay, so I have a medical background. And what drew me in is I was, I, I ended up finding out about a meeting they were having, they were having a community meeting virtual. So I joined it and people started talking about energy and they started talking about energy in their body. And I was like, okay, this is this is different, I’m not used to it. But they also were talking about physiology, which I understood. It’s like I totally get the physiology, understand how the body works. But they were combining the two and I was like that, there’s something here. It drew me in to understand that the physiology was affected by the energy. And when I started learning more about that, I was like, wow. So when people ask me, they’re like, so is it somatic trauma stuff? I say it’s body and energy. Suzy Wraines 00:09:28 So it’s combining those two things having energy. We are energy beings antibody. And so the energy actually affects the body. And I wasn’t putting those two and two together. And so when when I got introduced to some magnetics it started to make sense to me. And I was able to start learning how to access my own energy and really feel it, know where it is, flow with it and that started changing my business at the same time. Lisa Lewis 00:09:58 Oh, I love that. And I just want to put another disclaimer out that I’m also part of Somatics. And I go back, as I’ve talked about on the podcast, way back into the early 2000 when it was, called Lionheart Institute of Transpersonal Energy Healing. And so I just want to pause there and go to because something that you said about trauma energy and then being a business owner, especially as solo entrepreneur and me and myself, I was in, I guess corporate, yes, corporate world. When I graduated college many years ago, I was working for one of the three major, television networks. Lisa Lewis 00:10:48 So in that environment, and yes, I did a specific job, had the tools, the skills to do that job. Then I stop working in television. I have children, raise my children and go back to school and become a licensed psychotherapist going into private practice. So again, in like graduate school, they don’t teach you how to run a business, open a business or any of that. We have the skills graduating to be a therapist. Right. And so I’m going into private practice with no business skills other than my corporate skills, which are very helpful. I think everything that you learn in life, you apply in other areas of your life, but also learning about being highly sensitive and highly sensitive. That feeling of being overwhelmed, over stimulated, wanting to get it right. We mold over decisions. It’s not so cut and dry for us. We kind of we mold over. Is this right? We do it that way, this way. Look at all angles and so that can hold us up in and decision making and then this, that feeling of all that energy in like, what do we do with that energy that’s keeping us stuck or not moving in a direction? And especially when you’re running your own private practice as a therapist, coach, or whatever type of healer you are and needing to have that energy flow. Lisa Lewis 00:12:14 So your decision making and the creation of your business flows along with your own energy. And I’m wondering if you could talk to the listeners who are listening, who are highly sensitive and maybe feeling stuck or filling up a lock. And how would you work with a client that comes to you and goes, Susie, I need help, just like I did with with my with my issue around numbers and money and how that all, transpired. And, you know, I moved through that working with you and remove those blocks. Suzy Wraines 00:12:53 Yeah. What many of the things you just described is I think of it and correct me if I’m wrong. All the things you described, we all have. But highly sensitive people just have it. They’re more sensitive. It’s it’s easier to fall into the overwhelm, not being able to make decisions. That’s more heightened in my understanding that correctly. Lisa Lewis 00:13:20 Yes. You are, let’s say like ten times more. Suzy Wraines 00:13:23 Okay. Yeah. So everybody I work with has all the things you listed because being an entrepreneur and you’ve experienced this yourself, starting your own practice, it opens up all of our wounds. Suzy Wraines 00:13:41 We’re we’re asking people to give us money. We are showing up in places to tell people who we are and what we do. we are having to do numbers? Maybe that’s not something that was ever comfortable. You haven’t done a lot of that in the past. Everything is like it’s like being new in the world. And I think of, looking at it from curiosity over being fearful of it. I know when we step up to doing something that we don’t know much about, I am going to say having a coach is key. I’m a I’ve, I have coaches, I’ve had coaches since I became a coach over five years ago. finding the right one is key. And not all coaches coach the same way, so I always recommend that be as open and honest as you can be about having being highly sensitive and saying, I’m not just going through the motions of having a business. I’m not just going through the motions of being an entrepreneur. I’m actually working through being highly sensitive at the same time. Suzy Wraines 00:15:01 And I think that that’s where you and I connected, and we were able to work together so easily because you were able to name. I’m really uncomfortable with numbers and I’m like, oh, okay. That awareness for me as a coach allowed me to go into it with meeting you right where you’re at, describing things in a way that was helpful, asking you to tell me if that made sense or not, you know, really meeting people where they are in the moment. And even though and I’m just curious, since you have worked with me, how do you feel about numbers now compared to before? Lisa Lewis 00:15:40 Well, that’s a great question. They don’t feel as scary, as they did before working with you. And I can look at numbers now and numbers are I guess it’s like a money exchange, right? It’s just a flow of energy. And you can you can change the numbers. You can manipulate the numbers to see how how the number changes. Right. And I guess the number is really what I’m talking about is money and the money flow. Lisa Lewis 00:16:09 And yes, you can make that higher. You can make it lower, you can make it in between. And also by doing that, you know, looking at a spreadsheet and like, okay, what if we make this, this number and see what works and then that equals this number. How does that fill in your body? Okay. What if we change that number a little lower and it equals this number. How does that fill in your body. So then like kind of just registering about how this how the numbers change in how they feel in my body. It was also gives me information about how I feel about myself. Well if I price it as this. Am I really worth that much money if I price it here? Am I telling myself I’m not worth anything? And so is that process of working with the numbers it also uncovers? I think some like, imposter syndrome. And that can lead to, like, self-sabotage. So there’s a whole process that’s going on that could be underneath maybe the, the, number one symptom that you’re coming in with as a business coach, as a client, and then uncovering everything else that’s underneath that. Lisa Lewis 00:17:30 It’s kind of like the same way as therapy when you’re going in for a mental health symptom and then uncovering what’s underneath all of it. Suzy Wraines 00:17:39 Yeah. That was you described that beautifully with looking at the numbers and then saying, how does that feel in my body? How do I feel about that? And it’s interesting because that’s if you think about it, how do you feel on a scale of 1 to 10? You know, we use that scale all the time because it’s an identifier and something that we can put into an actual. I don’t know what the word is. It’s evidence. It’s it’s actually something that we can measure. And so when people are like, I’m uncomfortable with numbers or I’m scared of numbers, that’s a general broad I’m scared of. Are you scared of all numbers or are you just scared of pricing, or are you just scared of asking for money? I mean, dialing that down and saying, okay, where exactly are you feeling this? What’s happening in your body? And we’re going to try some different things to identify what it really is, like you said, peeling back those layers. Suzy Wraines 00:18:41 And then once you notice what that root is, it could be a story that you’re telling yourself. It could be a belief. I’m working with a client right now, and she. She’s been asking the universe to give her answers to some of these difficult things that she’s going through. She’s leaving a a clinical setting, working for a practice. It’s a it’s a big, big practice. And she’s one of the only mental health, nurse practitioner, psych psychiatric nurse practitioners. And she had a she has a patient who came and was like, they’re actually choosing to pay the cash price for her services because their insurance is, like twice as much for the deductible. And she told me, she said, this makes me realize that I can do a private practice and people will pay me. She said, I didn’t believe that before. I believed that everybody had to have insurance to pay for my services, and I’m realizing that people will work with me. They’re willing to pay my cash price versus putting it through insurance. Suzy Wraines 00:19:48 Because insurance is a lot of times if you don’t run the numbers and look through the numbers of what you’re paying for insurance versus what you’re getting, it’s a facade. It looks like you’re covered. You’re covered. If you have a major trauma incident and have to be hospitalized or something like that. But for these little daily things that you might do or monthly things, it might cost you more to actually use your insurance. So having the perspective and sitting with a spreadsheet and going, if I do this, it looks like this. If I do this, it looks like this. What does this mean to me? How does it feel in my body? What is my belief about other people? Do I? Am I running a belief system in my body that says, I don’t believe that someone will pay me if they don’t have insurance? And that’s what she was running up against and she was so excited last week. She’s like, I totally get it now. I understand. And it changed her whole perspective and she’s like, I feel amazing. Suzy Wraines 00:20:48 I don’t have to take insurance. I can just do my own thing. She talked to some other people that are doing the exact same thing in their practice, and she got reinforced. And I recommend that to all my clients. Ask people who are doing what you’re doing, how they’re doing. Lisa Lewis 00:21:04 I love that, and thank you for, sharing about your client and like her process in the process that I described about the numbers and then noticing what’s happening in my body, that’s a process that you guided me through so that I think that is something special about you, Suzy, as a business coach, because you work with the business part. Right? The, the, the I think that’s like the structural, the, the part that we need, and also the energetic part of it, like, what is all of that? What is that all that story that’s coming out. What is what is that all about? And let’s like unpack that. Let’s look at that. explore that so you can let that go and keep moving on. Lisa Lewis 00:21:49 And I guess have the business that you want to have. Suzy Wraines 00:21:52 Yeah, I love that you highlight that because that’s my story. I was stuck my business wasn’t growing because I was holding on to all of my old belief systems, and I was, living in defense without knowing it. And that’s that’s one of the reasons that I work with my clients the way that I do. And it it all comes down to what do you believe? How are you feeling, what’s happening in your body? Once we shift our energy, the universe responds and it responds really quickly. And the more that I learn about this and I’m still studying it, it’s we’re ongoing learners, we’re ongoing healing. And the more I study it, the more I step into it, the more I practice it and I share it, and I do it for myself. And then I share it with other people the more I realize how powerful it is. I’ll give you an example of for me what happened to me last year. I for some reason, I was uncomfortable working with my clients. Suzy Wraines 00:23:01 And this is for highly sensitive people because this will come up if we have an underlying trauma that we haven’t addressed. It’s going to intensify our sensitivity to things. So I had clients on my calendar. That wasn’t the issue. It wasn’t getting clients. It wasn’t them paying me or anything like that. But I would see my calendar and I would have a nervous system response. I would get uncomfortable, I would get negative, I would get I don’t want to see my clients today. Yuck. You know, what am I doing? Why am I doing like? All these negative things would flood into my body and I could not figure out where that was coming from and doing my own healing through so much working with a trauma coach. We identified that when I was in the army in Iraq, I was a first responder in a war zone. If I didn’t help the person injured, they could die. And that was the story that I was running. Subconsciously, when I would look at a client, I would be like, if I can’t help them, they’re going to die. Suzy Wraines 00:24:05 If I can’t be perfect, like, do every single thing, they’re not going to make it. And so I had this nervous system response, and once we uncovered that, I was able to process it and move past it and then let it go from my body and be excited to work with clients, be excited and anticipate what it is they’re going to learn and what I’m going to learn, and how great it’s going to be to be on a call with them and ask what they’re doing. And it shifted my energy so much, just understanding that it was in my nervous system. It was subconsciously blocking me from enjoying doing my job. Lisa Lewis 00:24:43 Oh, I could see how that would make a lot of sense. like, subconsciously and like, what I hear, I don’t know if this is true or not for you, is that if you don’t help this client. Yeah, they could die because they’re depending on you on starting this business, which, you know, feeds them. And this is how they’re living their life. Lisa Lewis 00:25:05 And they need like, money to live. And so if it wasn’t like, I guess successful then yeah, they have to go do something else. Suzy Wraines 00:25:14 So the reason that I shared that story is I understand the medical side, and that’s one of the reasons I chose to work with medical professionals, was that we work from protocol driven. So very structured, taking orders from doctors, prescribing, doing all these things that are very, legally binding. And for people that work in a hospital setting or in a patient acute care setting. There is that sense of urgency that if I’m if I make a mistake, someone’s going to get hurt. Someone could get hurt. So that’s one of the reasons that I picked working with medical professionals. And it gives that I understand where you’re coming from and that’s in your nervous system. So it could be bleeding over into you, starting your own practice to the point where you don’t get started. You sabotage yourself constantly because you’re like, if I don’t get it perfect, someone can get hurt. Suzy Wraines 00:26:14 If I don’t get it perfect, I’m not going to be able to help this person that I want to help so badly. And I struggled with that. So I can understand that feeling and that and and it helps me to see when I’m talking to a client or a potential client, some of the words that they use or some of the ways they’re describing things. To me, I can I can kind of see, okay, this might be an area that we want to go deeper into, and then we can have a conversation around it. So it was really valuable for me to examine my own journey and what I was going through, and then how I implement that with how I work with people. Lisa Lewis 00:26:54 Okay. Well, thank you for sharing that. And can you provide us, some practical tools, for a highly sensitive individual who is already in a let’s, business entrepreneurship or is thinking about it, how they can take some steps forward so they don’t get stuck in the process and end up doing nothing. Suzy Wraines 00:27:25 So there there are a few things that I recommend. There’s spiritual energy practices. And there are logistically, I’m going to do the things I always recommend. I’m a big list maker, so I always recommend if you’re feeling stuck about moving forward. Write everything down. Write everything down that’s going on in your head. Write everything down that you’re feeling. Get it out onto paper. When you write everything out, it gives you an opportunity to really see what you’re thinking. The other thing I recommend is always to do some form of either meditating or prayer or journaling where you’re completely silent. Allow yourself to just be. And in those moments, just allow yourself. Ask yourself, what do I need? What do I need? And listen and follow it, even if it seems like it doesn’t fit into what it is that you’re doing for your day. The universe is so much smarter than we are, and it has all the answers, and we’re tapped into it all the time. We just are usually too busy or overwhelmed to take a minute and just pause. Suzy Wraines 00:28:44 So I recommend, if you’re feeling overwhelmed in a situation. First is to take a pause. If you have to walk away, if you’re working on something in your business and you have to walk away from your computer, go take a walk. Being outside in nature is so powerful and just getting away from the situation. The practical thing that I’m going to say is have a plan. I know people don’t like planning, but what I want to say is planning is flexible. It is not. When you write it down, it has to happen, but it is a way for you to think about what you desire. So we’re not writing a plan from a masculine I’m going to put in force to do this thing. We’re writing a plan so that we can imagine what it’s going to be like. So what does it look like? What does it feel like? How is it that you’re interacting when this happens, when you when these things that you put on your plan happen. So I’m going to give you an example of myself what I do. Suzy Wraines 00:29:46 And I just started doing this this year. every morning before I start my day, I spend about 15 to 30 minutes meditating, quiet, journaling what it is. And I always ask the question, what do I need to know today? And I write out what it is. And then I ask the question, what do I need to focus on today? And I write out the answer that starts my day. Then I go to the practical side, which is now that I have information, maybe what’s on my to do list. There’s something that came to me in the morning that’s different. So I’m going to replace some of the things on my to do list for today. If they’re not things that are already with somebody else scheduled, but it’s just outside work stuff, I will replace it with what came to me in the morning, and I have a 90 day plan, so I plan out three months in advance. And I have it by week and by day. And I just look at one day at a time. Suzy Wraines 00:30:50 So I look at today, what do I need to know today? I look at my journal, I look at my plan and I go, okay, what needs to shift? And I just shift it and I go moment by moment. So that’s how every day goes for me. I have on my calendar the people that I’m meeting with. Those don’t change unless they change them and everything in between. The work stuff is all. It’s sort of planned, but it’s flexible. Lisa Lewis 00:31:19 And what have you noticed since doing this? This plan, this 90 day plan? What have you noticed happen in your life or in you or something else? Suzy Wraines 00:31:30 I am less energy charged with overwhelm, feeling like I’m not completing Enough. I feel in, like a peaceful, flowing environment. It’s allowed me to stop working when my day is over. Knowing that I did everything that I was going to. Was part of my day. I’m not doing busy work so procrastination can look like not doing anything at all. Or it can look like being busy, but it’s not moving anything towards your goals. Suzy Wraines 00:32:10 So my 90 day plan actually has my goals in it. So it shows me in. So for example I’m going to give you an example. I’m on this podcast with you today because this is one of my goals. I made a goal for myself to be a guest on at least four podcasts by the end of the year, and I put that on my 90 day plan. And then I ask myself, what tasks am I doing to achieve that goal. So it eliminates busywork. I need to go find a few podcasts to be on. So who are some people that I would love to be on their podcast? And you were one of those people. So you got on my list and I was like, oh yeah, I get to be on these podcasts. And so it gives me a sense of accomplishment. It gives me a sense of excitement to look forward to what’s happening. And then I also see progress towards a goal. So having a goal set and again, I always have I always remind people everything can change. Suzy Wraines 00:33:12 It’s okay to write it down. Many times people come to me and they say, I don’t want to plan because then I feel like I have to stick to it. And if I don’t do it, then, then I failed. Just change the plan. There are times when I look at my list and I go, I didn’t do any of those things and I just move them to a different day. Like, it’s totally fine. It doesn’t. I don’t have to feel bad about it. so that that’s what I do. And I’m working on. I’m actually developing it now to help my clients develop their own plan, because I know mine is set up for me. I always say that the best plan that works is the one that you do yourself, because my plan might not work for you. You work different than I do, so I’m working on a way to customize this type of planning for my clients to implement into their practice, too. Lisa Lewis 00:34:02 I love that because you have to start somewhere. Lisa Lewis 00:34:06 And why not start with your plan and see how that works? And then you can modify it. And just like I love that, like nothing is set in stone, but we have to start somewhere, like you said, and make a plan. And it’s not set in stone. It’s all flexible. Suzy Wraines 00:34:22 Yeah. And I just want to give you an update. as we’re recording this, this is this is my fourth podcast, and we’re in October. and I have like, four more scheduled for the rest of the year because I focused, I focused on the thing and I was like, I want to do that. And then all of a sudden people started asking me and I was like, wow, because I put it out into the universe that I wanted to be on podcasts. And I and I followed through with that energy, and I’m just so excited. I’m like, I’m, I’m met my goal and now I’m surpassing it. So I’m excited. Lisa Lewis 00:34:57 That is exciting and congratulations on that goal. Lisa Lewis 00:35:02 Wow, that is very exciting. That’s so cool. So, Susie, what would you like listeners to take away from our conversation today? If there was one thing, what would you like them to take away? Suzy Wraines 00:35:15 Well, probably the biggest thing that’s made an impact on me in my life. My business just in general is slow down and be quiet more often. Even if you just set a timer and and do it in small increments, say I’m going to set a timer for two minutes. And I’m just going to sit in silence or go for a walk or be outside. Just go step out on the porch and allow yourself to just be slowing down and really being intentional and focusing more in my life, in my business, in my personal relationships, has completely elevated my life experience. Lisa Lewis 00:36:03 Oh well, thank you for sharing that. And I know that I’ve been elevated by having you in my life, getting to know you as you know, my business coach and also through so much ethics and working with you along side by side in that capacity. Suzy Wraines 00:36:23 Yeah, and I really love working with you, Lisa. I love, I love what you bring to Somatics. I love watching what you’re doing in your practice and how you’re shifting and and the podcast I. I love all of it, and I just really appreciate our friendship and our coworking experience and all the wonderful things that we’re doing together. Lisa Lewis 00:36:44 well, likewise. Thank you. And how can listeners find you? Suzy Wraines 00:36:50 The best way to find me is through my website. It is starting a business simplified. Com and it has all of the information on there. You can click around and find everything that I do and my podcast as well. And the podcast is starting a business simplified as well. Lisa Lewis 00:37:09 Okay. Thank you for that. All of that information will be in the show notes. So if you missed it, you will find it in the show notes. Thank you, Susie, for coming on the show today, for giving us all your insights and sharing your personal experiences and getting to know you. Lisa Lewis 00:37:28 so much better. I mean, I’ve heard your story, but I also like it just listening to you and just hearing it again. I feel like I, I know, I know you. Deeper is what I want to say. Suzy Wraines 00:37:42 Thank you so much, Lisa. Thank you for having me. And as silly as it sounds, podcasting for me is where I open up the most. It’s like easy for me to. I don’t know why everybody’s anybody can hear it, but it’s easier for me to open up on a podcast than it is to just have a conversation. Lisa Lewis 00:38:01 Well, there it is. That’s. Yeah, that’s I got to know you even more through the podcast. Well, thank you for that. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. Suzy Wraines 00:38:09 You thank you Lisa. Lisa Lewis 00:38:12 You’re welcome. Yeah. And thank you, my listeners, for joining us on this enlightening episode of Sensitive in Nature with the wonderful Susie Rains. A hope, her journey and expertise and combining personal healing with business strategies have given you valuable tools to show up as your authentic self in your own entrepreneurial journey. Lisa Lewis 00:38:36 Remember, healing is not only personal. That can be the foundation for professional growth, especially for highly sensitive individuals. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to check out Susie’s Starting a Business Simplified podcast for more tips on building a business that aligns with your purpose. Until next time, take care. Continue to nurture your sensitive. Continue to nurture your sensitive nature and bye for now. Thank you for joining me on this episode of Sensitive and Nature. I hope you found inspiration and solace in our exploration of the profound connection between highly sensitive people and the natural world. If you enjoy today’s episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review or sharing it with someone who might find comfort and insight into our discussions. Your support means the world to me. Remember, you can always connect with me on social media or visit my website, Sensitive nature.com for additional resources and updates. 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